tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2445354648404556157.post1366545996197769570..comments2023-10-02T11:11:57.034+01:00Comments on Bippidee: HopelessBippideehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10499124986641789890noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2445354648404556157.post-91426391281986501562011-02-10T14:17:10.063+00:002011-02-10T14:17:10.063+00:00grr, I really wish they would stop being rediculou...grr, I really wish they would stop being rediculous and give you the extra support that you obviously need.<br />I wish I could lend you cc. <br />Take care my dear.<br />(((hugs)))Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2445354648404556157.post-69813581146470737442011-02-09T14:28:31.103+00:002011-02-09T14:28:31.103+00:00fwiw I don't think L doesn't care, just th...fwiw I don't think L doesn't care, just that she obviously has strong ideas about what is/isn't helpful and doesn't seem prepared to reconsider them. I seem to remember her once saying something along the lines of maybe she was wrong and hospital and medication was what you needed. She's gambling - with your life - that she's right. And some of the things she says aren't really true. for instance while you can still kill yourself in hospital if you're really determined to, it's a great deal harder, so hospital *can* help to keep you safe.<br /><br />I strongly suspect that the crisis team discharged you because of something L said. Because the way they were treating you - visiting you *and* phoning you, talking about involving your parents, urgent referrals to psychiatrists etc - suggests that they were really quite concerned. To go from that to L saying she'll see you in a fortnight - well, you must be very confused because I sure am.werehorsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04853583140343749049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2445354648404556157.post-60501743373674110502011-02-09T13:13:41.430+00:002011-02-09T13:13:41.430+00:00I don't know what to say, but I am frustrated ...I don't know what to say, but I am frustrated by reading this post. Having the crisis team sounded like a positive step and they seemed to be helpful and then suddenly they just stop it all for no reason and without telling you. There must be something going on behind the scenes there.<br /><br />I too am worried about how useful L is being. It seems like she has almost taken for granted that you manage despite things being so crap, without realising that maybe you won't be able to manage any more or that maybe her job is not to help you survive but to make things better.<br /><br />I don't know. Hope things pick up and you cope despite their lack of help.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2445354648404556157.post-676664357641221802011-02-09T01:49:54.923+00:002011-02-09T01:49:54.923+00:00Oh, and this explains about advocacy: http://www.m...Oh, and this explains about advocacy: http://www.mind.org.uk/help/rights_and_legislation/mind_guide_to_advocacy.<br /><br />Sorry if I sound like I'm in solution mode, I'm not, just trying to suggest things you might want to consider. More hugs hon.butterflywingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16873407072604417252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2445354648404556157.post-47707438713703158012011-02-09T00:51:52.376+00:002011-02-09T00:51:52.376+00:00Oh I'm *so* sorry.
You deserve better than tha...Oh I'm *so* sorry.<br />You deserve better than that. That...non-help. The crisis team really sound useless; I'm so angry for you. As for L, I can only say I don't get it either, but it sounds like she *does* care. I can see why you feel let down.<br />I don't know what to say, how you get through the next 2 weeks, except take it one day - one minute - at a time. You know I'm here if you need to talk, as are all the others commenting here. I think you do need to talk, it may sound trite, but just offloading everything might help you. <br /><br />Think about a retreat, as I said before, OK?<br />Also, about an advocate. Someone mentioned voluntary services, are you sure there aren't any, maybe your local Mind can tell you?<br /><br />These might give you a tiny bit of comfort:<br /> <br />http://depressionmarathon.blogspot.com/2011/01/re-birth-day-reprise.html<br /><br />http://www.metanoia.org/suicide/<br /><br />(((((Bip))))) try to take care of yourself, hon.butterflywingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16873407072604417252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2445354648404556157.post-25906870786817842252011-02-08T22:55:40.005+00:002011-02-08T22:55:40.005+00:00Hi :)
I've read your blog on and off for a ye...Hi :)<br /><br />I've read your blog on and off for a year or so, and just caught up with your most recent posts. It's so strange - it's almost exactly the same as my experiences at the beginning of 2007. The shitty inefficient crisis team, being told that I needed to "decide to live", having people act as if I couldn't possibly be suicidal if I wasn't actually downing pills at that very second - all of it. I wish I could say that your experiences shock me, or that they are not typical, but the treatment of people with chronic depression and other non-psychotic disorders in the UK does tend to go like that. <br /><br />I want to tell you that I felt as hopeless as you sound three years ago, and that it did pass, but I don't want to be patronising or to assume that my experience is generalisible to everyone else in similar situations. So I will just say that I know what it feels like and I am so, so sorry that you're suffering so much at that moment. I am under no illusions that it will help, but if you ever want someone else to talk to (someone from the UK who is all bitter about crisis teams!) then you are welcome to email me or find me on facebook (katie_cullinane@hotmail.com).<br /><br />I really hope this shit starts lifting a bit soon <3Katiehttp://themilkfreeway.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2445354648404556157.post-6481383705611116912011-02-08T19:49:38.406+00:002011-02-08T19:49:38.406+00:00Hey, I found your blog through Mental Nurse a whil...Hey, I found your blog through Mental Nurse a while back but have never commented before.<br /><br />Could you phone an ask for an urgent appointment with your psychiatrist? I know you said you hadn't seen them in a while, but now it seems like you really need to.<br /><br />Take care of yourself xAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2445354648404556157.post-11003716580828073952011-02-08T19:21:38.284+00:002011-02-08T19:21:38.284+00:00Middle Child - I am 24. However, I live with my pa...Middle Child - I am 24. However, I live with my parents, and legally mental health services can break your confidentiality if they consider you to be at risk, regardless of your wishes. They would consider my parents my carers, and for example in the case of the Mental Health Act (sectioning), my mother would be my Nearest Relative, who legally must be involved. Obviously they aren't trying to section me so that isn't an issue, but unfortunately they are allowed to do it regardless of my age basically.<br /><br />My Black Fog - I think there is an element of trying to pass the buck. It is frustrating when you really do try and get help and just can't access it. There are also a lot of things that sound good in theory, like the crisis team (also called the home treatment team by the way - noticed you asking about them on someone else's blog). Sounds good in theory, but in practice virtually everyone seems to end up having negative experiences with them, because essentially they were created when the number of psych beds in this country was drastically slashed because of funding issues, and they realised that there were all these people who would normally be in hospital who couldn't get by with one appointment a week, so crisis teams were set up. However, even a daily visit can be totally inadequate, and certainly doesn't compare to being in hospital, which in a way is what it is supposed to do - only the most ill generally end up in hospital now, whilst everyone else who would have been hospitalised had they not taken away most of the beds ends up with daily phone calls or visits, which isn't really a substitute.<br /><br />There and Back - thank you. I used to read your blog and I wondered what had happened to you. I am sorry to hear that you are struggling too.<br /><br />xxxxBippideehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10499124986641789890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2445354648404556157.post-64314791088490373672011-02-08T18:09:54.522+00:002011-02-08T18:09:54.522+00:00I regularly read but don't comment however fel...I regularly read but don't comment however felt I had to today. I'm in a hole myself so low on words, but I'm really sorry you are getting so little support. I've had similar experiences with crisis teams too so can empathise on that front. Don't know what else to say... I really hope things improve soon, you are obviously suffering deeply.There and Backhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09907375912454018913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2445354648404556157.post-67090021068451149122011-02-08T17:47:12.320+00:002011-02-08T17:47:12.320+00:00I'm astounded at the lack of concern from all ...I'm astounded at the lack of concern from all these professional. It seems to me that they want to involve your parents because they don't know what to do with you (or can't be bothered to help?) so they're passing the buck by getting your parents involved hence they can 'babysit' you when they have no professional training which in my eyes just puts too much pressure and worry on them and doesn't do a damn thing for you.<br />I haven't had any care except for seeing my P-doc every 7 to 8 weeks and all he does is give me meds. I get no counselling or therapy of any kind. I was always envious of everyone on here who received that care. But after following your blog, I wonder which is better. No care (me) or promised care and the run-around but never getting any substantial help (you)<br />I really wished I could reach through this computer and give you a big hug.<br />((hugs))My Black Foghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07290925430252045966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2445354648404556157.post-52852003562421515712011-02-08T17:23:47.951+00:002011-02-08T17:23:47.951+00:00I feel like no one is really listening to you. On...I feel like no one is really listening to you. Only you know how the different people you see, help you. I was wondering too if you are 18 or older. If so,...it isn't right to involve your parents without your consent unless you are resistant to that because you don't want them to feel bad or you feel embarrassed. As I said, if you are 18 or older, you have a right to decide to disallow parental involvement. Peace.middle childhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09805863175279915034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2445354648404556157.post-39776131488651586952011-02-08T15:03:08.086+00:002011-02-08T15:03:08.086+00:00Well she isn't on leave until next week, and s...Well she isn't on leave until next week, and since she only sees me every other week I doubt anyone even considered it mattered. There is no point in going to A&E - it is staffed by the same crisis team that have just discharged me without telling me. xBippideehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10499124986641789890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2445354648404556157.post-57853348343328839082011-02-08T14:58:09.217+00:002011-02-08T14:58:09.217+00:00How can crisis team discharge you if L is going on...How can crisis team discharge you if L is going on leave?! Seems totally daft. I'm sorry nothing more productive came out of your meeting... You deserve to be getting some answers or outcomes! I'm glad you were able to be honest with L though, just sorry it didn't really help. <br /><br />I do agree that maybe your parents should be involved? They know you have had crisis input so must have an idea domething is not right? If you have another night like last night please try and go to a&e or something! XxxxAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2445354648404556157.post-87512543408012254702011-02-08T14:50:00.031+00:002011-02-08T14:50:00.031+00:00I know who all of the other members of the team ar...I know who all of the other members of the team are and she is the best. There is only one other I would even consider seeing, but a friend who has been under both says L is better. It isn't just that L is nice that I have always been happy with her, in fact originally it was much less about her being nice than thinking she was effective. She has always been very supportive etc, but she isn't actually the type where nice would be the first word that would spring to mind - she is stronger than that. Most of the other team members are what I would consider nice but very wet, and give the have a bath or go for a walk advice if yu speak to them, which she never would. And I still think she is really good at working in a more therapeutic way, but obviously at the moment I am not able to do that, and perhaps she isn't as good in crisis periods. I don't know. There are no voluntary services that would be suitable in the area and my GP isn't working today. xBippideehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10499124986641789890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2445354648404556157.post-29465334907812070682011-02-08T14:33:36.897+00:002011-02-08T14:33:36.897+00:00Oh, and I agree with Karita. I know you're at...Oh, and I agree with Karita. I know you're attached to her and that she has <b>generally</b> been good for you, but what you've said about her in the last few months makes me wonder just how much she's taking you seriously. I'm sorry to be so blunt, but as I said, you do deserve better than this.<br /><br />xxxPandorahttp://serialinsomniac.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2445354648404556157.post-22406257709561703102011-02-08T14:31:16.178+00:002011-02-08T14:31:16.178+00:00*hugs* I'm so sorry you're not getting ade...*hugs* I'm so sorry you're not getting adequate help.stopbeingstupidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14860866633957025571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2445354648404556157.post-66850296090887489622011-02-08T14:30:32.565+00:002011-02-08T14:30:32.565+00:00I don't know what to say except that this simp...I don't know what to say except that this simply isn't good enough, and that you deserve (and should be entitled to) much more support than this. Is there some service in the voluntary sector (Mind, Rethink?) that could help in the meantime? Or could you see your GP again a few times, to at least offload to someone if nothing else?<br /><br />God, I don't know. I'm clutching at straws here probably, but I'm so frustrated with how you've been treated. I can't image how <b>you</b> must therefore feel :(<br /><br />We're all here if you need to talk. I know it's probably not enough, but t's there.<br /><br />*massive hugs* and love to you.<br /><br />xxxPandorahttp://serialinsomniac.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2445354648404556157.post-40122242691998279952011-02-08T14:24:42.614+00:002011-02-08T14:24:42.614+00:00I'm so, so sorry. I think she is completely ne...I'm so, so sorry. I think she is completely negligent and a new support worker would be better than a nice, but ineffective support worker.<br /><br />My heart goes out to you too. If there is ANYTHING I can do, just give me a yell. Always happy to chat to my friend Bip.Narkyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04479667859623157702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2445354648404556157.post-6108672215859667902011-02-08T14:22:46.928+00:002011-02-08T14:22:46.928+00:00I just do not know what to say Bip, lovely. I am s...I just do not know what to say Bip, lovely. I am so sorry nothing more practical by way of support came out of the meeting. My heart goes out to you. Love and hugs Bip. xxxxhidihidihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12108567349803850478noreply@blogger.com